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End of the World

A public announcement

I am disassociating myself from Jehovah's Witnesses.

That is all.
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Wow, that's a big step. Fading away wasn't enough...?

I'm assuming you wrote a letter, did you outline your reasons for taking this step?
I haven't yet. This is a big enough e-step for me, you see, I'm not quite ready to make this "IRL public". But it's a step towards it. I haven't really considered myself a JW for over a year.

I'm gonna have to "get ready" real fast, though, before word of my pagan leanings gets out and I get disfellowshipped. I'd rather leave in my own terms.
I'm sorry to hear that :(
Me too. I thought it was better to be honest about it, though.

Ex JW applauds you

Bravo for you!

Dissident JW member speaks out.

The core dogma of the Watchtower organization is that Jesus had his second coming 'invisibly' in the year 1914.Their entire doctrinal superstructure is built on this falsehood.

Jehovah's Witnesses door to door recruitment is by their own admission an ineffective tactic. They have lost membership in all countries with major Internet access because their false doctrines and harmful practices are exposed on the modern information superhighway.

There is good and valid reasons why there is such an outrage against the Watchtower for misleading millions of followers.Many have invested everything in the 'imminent' apocalyptic promises of the Jehovah's Witnesses and have died broken and beaten.

Now if you wanted to know about the quality of a product,would you listen to the seller or a longtime customer?
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Respectfully,Danny Haszard http://www.dannyhaszard.com

Re: Ex JW applauds you

Although I am disfellowshipped, I do not think that what they are teaching is falsehoods. By no means.

And how can you call what we do misleading? It's not like we are forcing them to accept our beliefs or brainwashing them. People believe what they want to believe. Ultimately it's up to them. If that wasn't the case everyone would be a Jehovah's Witness. But no, people have a choice. They can choose to believe in what we teach.

I have never force anyone to listen to me, not even my worldly friends. If they don't want to listen I respect their decision.

Even still, say we were misleading why are you picking on only Jehovah's Witnesses? You can say that about any religion, cult, or what have you. Once again, no matter what we try to teach there is no way we can force people to become Jehovah's Witnesses.

A recruitment??? Are you serious? You have got to be kidding. It's not like we are the army, sending out pamphlets "JOIN OUR RELIGION!!!" That's not what we do. What we do is try to encourage people to read their Bibles. Our goal is not to be the biggest religion or try to "recruit" as many people as possible. Our goal is to bring people good news, something that other religions don't do.

It's ignorant people like you that make me happy to be associated with the truth. People like you waste their time trying to spread lies and whatnot. Try to find a better hobby.


When you think about what you're gaining versus what you're losing, are you really certain what's on each list?

What's really sad for me is that you must have stopped talking to Jehovah a long time ago, long, long before you'll stop talking to "us".

It isn't enough to say you love Jehovah. You've got to mean it, and love what He loves, and hate what He hates. Can you say you've really given it ALL you have to retain your faith? You certainly can't do that "conspiring" with His enemies.

I'm definitely saddened by your choice, but until it is "IRL public", I will still make myself available to talk to you. If you really want to talk out some lingering thoughts or issues, my contact info is on my profile page here; email me and let it rip.
I understand your sadness, I've seen a couple of somewhat close people go while I was still in and it was heart-breaking. I have to make a couple of things clear, though.

It's not about gaining or losing something. It's about me having to be where I can be myself. I've always loved the Creator. It's just that, the way I see the world, he doesn't really hate all the things the JWs say he hates. I got to a point where all the stuff everyone was reading from books was getting awfully confusing, and I just had to get away from all the people talking to look at his other, more important work, the creation itself. What I understood from it lead me to this decision, not anything anyone said.

You are right in thinking I read apostate material. I posted about it when I did. It was almost a year ago. I haven't bothered with it since, all they talk about are 'the errors of the Watchtower' and 'how to get JWs to lose their faith', nothing about the answers I was actually seeking, so I looked elsewhere.

You must understand that I've not been raised a JW. I was born a Catholic. I abandoned it in favor of Spiritism when I found it was no longer spiritually fulfilling, and I left Spiritism in favor of Protestantism for the same reason, and I left Protestantism in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses for the same reason. I was never afraid to question faith, and I won't have you judging me for listening to those who have different beliefs, even for a while. It's just what I've always done, and I would've never even gotten to be a JW if I didn't.



I'll talk to you and anyone else about my issues with JW doctrine, if they'd like. I fear, however, that it would be considered apostasy.
I've said this to more than one person already recently: two founding principles need to be true for the rest of our faith to be real and worth it: Exodus 36:4 and 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. That is, Jehovah must be everything -- and I mean EVERYthing -- that He promises to be in the Scriptures, and those Scriptures MUST be 100% inspired by Him.

Apostates and other opposers to Jehovah's Witnesses like to pick and pick and pick and make mountains out of molehills and strain gnats while gulping camels. I think you can see that. Neither does "the Truth" rely solely on a gut emotional appeal without reasonable foundations. There is a balance. Even in following the direction of elders we balance our realization that they are merely men with the fact that Jehovah works out his purpose through those that have dedicated themselves to imbibing and spreading accurate, complete knowledge about Him.

The real problem with humanity's ever-changing fickle adoration of this belief system and that belief system is that they're trying to resolve moral fortitudes and pure spiritual thought with what they as imperfect humans want. Fornicators want the good feelings that can be had from Jesus' (or Jehovah's) love, but they also want to do something expressly forbidden by Jesus' own family's religion and the inspired commands of his earliest disciples. People pick and choose what they want from the Bible without seeking Jehovah's guidance and direction, becasue they trust the imperfect deaires of their hearts over what Jehovah counsels us to trust in and be guided by.

I'm becoming increasingly aware of people who are simply leaving the Truth because they just never fully committed. They were swayed easily to join our faith; they're just as easily swayed right back out of it. Remember the three ways in which spiritual "seed" sown by Kingdom preachers? The seeds falling on rocky soil withered from the sun; the others sown along the road were trampled; and still others were choked by thorns and thistles. In all three instances, the seeds of truth never reached deeeply enough into the person's heart to afffect real and permenant change.

Andrea, this is what appears to be happening to you. The "Truth" has not penetrated deeply enough. Jesus said, "Go then and learn what this means, 'I want mercy and not sacrifice.'" He isad this to Pharisees who demanded the "letter of the law" from the people but did not teach its spirit. You, Andrea, have learned "what" to do, but not "why" to do it. It's not "just because;" Jehovah doesn't even demand that we obey Him "just because He says so and that should be good enough for us". He explains Himself: who He is, what He purposed for the human race, and how successful we can be if we TRULY rely on Him to guide us.

Andrea, lets forget for a moment about everyone else: elders, the Governing Body, pioneers, publishers, travelling overseers -- all mean nothing. Can you truthfully say that you truely opened yourself up COMPLETELY to Jehovah and allowed Him to guide and help you? You cannot, because you would not be "here" right now. You've fallen prey to what is common to humanity: you've given credence to everything else except Jehovah in searching for what only He can provide.

Ponder this deeply for a moment: is Jehovah in error? OR, did you miss opportunities He may have laid out for you to help you, but you wanted something else: something fleshly, or something that tickles your ears? You've described your spiritual journey as one dissatisfied with creed after creed. Could it be that the one that really asked you to hold yourself accountable for your progress and gave you everything you really needed, you gave up because it didn't fit with what you wanted and desired as an imperfect human being?

This isn't simply a choice about who you want to hang out with; this is life and death, and even the world knows too many shiny pretty paths lead nowhere anyone really wants to be.
Tony, I understand your concern, and I'm thankful for it. Really. But your saying I was never fully committed to Jehovah hurts my feelings.

I can truthfully say I opened myself up completely to Him. I was the seed that fell on good soil, and grew, and gave good fruit. I laid my life and my heart in His hands and was confident that He'd compensate me if I just kept that up. I rejoiced on Christian gatherings, and most of all I rejoiced on learning His word and doing what was right by it. I won't have you belittle my contribution and my dedication of years just because you want to make a point. Your saying that only shows me how little you understand of people who left the Organization and their motives.

But it's fine. It's not you who has to know my heart, only God can.

I'll tell you this: my ears haven't been tickled. I believe you don't want to know the things I learned about the Watchtower Organization from ex-witnesses, so I won't trouble you with it. But facing one's own mortality is by no means having one's ears tickled.
you know I can understand you on many issues because for me life as a witness is not the outer life but the inner life. I think every JW feels stranged from their group sometimes, for many different reasons ofcourse. But personally I find it sad to see other people leave something that I treasure so deeply. That said I am glad to see you take a stand and not just keep up an appearance. For that you have my deepest respect, eventhough I dont understand it and really dont want to I guess.

Just one thing I have to comment on. That women are second class witnesses are so wrong. Men are not more important than women, men might have outwards, what you see with your eyes, but inwards they are so much more important than men. Every person is what he or she is and should be respected and treasured for that. No one is more important than another.
Women can't teach men. Women can't become ministers. Women can't pray in front of their husbands. Women are to be subjected to their husbands. Why? Because Eve was tricked and Adam wasn't? Something that happened to one couple, what, 6 thousand years ago, and all women now are inferior to men. That's ridiculous.

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i am really sorry to hear this. i know you've been struggling for awhile, and i understand some of your concerns, but i am going to have to remove you from my friends list. if you change your mind and decide not to go through w/ writing the letter, please let me know.

i really think you're a cool chic, i hope you find happiness.
woops, sorry, i didnt realize i wasnt logged in. if you want to delete the anonymous post and this one, that's cool.
i am really sorry to hear this. i know you've been struggling for awhile, and i understand some of your concerns, but i am going to have to remove you from my friends list. if you change your mind and decide not to go through w/ writing the letter, please let me know.

i really think you're a cool chic, i hope you find happiness.
Seen on a gravestone....

"Life is a joke and all things show it..
I thought so once but now i know it."

Also..

"Believe those who seek truth,
doubt those who find it."

That's all.
"Believe those who seek truth,
doubt those who find it."


I'll keep that in mind.